The American political world is agog with Harris’ VP choice. I’ve heard pundits panting about how it could come at any time now all weekend long. #Spoiler: It ain’t coming before her nomination vote, so it’ll be Tuesday, maybe Monday at the earliest. Even though all of this is rushed and in a compressed timeframe, she’s got to give us all a moment to take our breath and squeeze all of the unearned media she can out of these events: virtual roll call nomination, VP announcement, convention acceptance speech. You can’t be having those things stepping on each other. Each one will keep the Felonious Rapist Traitor out of the day’s news cycle.
So, let’s take a breath and get a fresh take on Harris’ VP choices. The first rule of VP is do no harm, and we’ve seen VP choices that have damaged the ticket and made the election harder if not impossible to win. Forget, the calculus of does Shapiro deliver Pennsylvania, does Kelly make it harder to hold the Senate, does Harris know Walz well enough?Let’s evaluate these guys where it matters:
- The Sarah Pudlin, to Tim Kaine continuum. I’m not saying either of those two caused their candidate to lose, okay the Lipsticked Grizzly really weighed McCain down. Without her, he had a chance. With her, no fucking way. In Tim Kaine’s case, he was an over-thought safe pick that had little lift in a tight race.
- Memeable. More than any other election, this one is going to be fought with memes, and Harris is gonna kick the Truth all outta Trump’s Socials. She social medias better on the platforms. She social medias better in her speeches. She social medias better in her sound bites. And, Trump already has Jamoke Dumbass weighing his fat hairless white ass down with memes.
- Age-Experience Perceptions. Okay, this veers into agist-sexist-racist territory, but we’re there anyway. People look at Harris and she’s seems young and pretty. Bottom line. Luckily, like Obama, she’s light-skinned enough not to be tossed from the Piggly Wiggly immediately upon entering, but she’ll be closely followed by the store dick that’s for sure. She needs someone on the ticket that is going to bring that old white dude gravitas without being too old like Biden. Just for the record, she’s 59 and she’s 5’2″ in stilettos.
There is no need to go over qualifications or other details here. We’ve seen in them in a million articles plastered all over the Interwebs from legacy news outlets to small political blogs. All of our social media feeds are choked with everybody and their monkey’s opinion on who Harris should pick and their evaluation of them. If you need it, here’s a link to Politico’s latest effort.
We’ll list the main six and I’ll prattle on about them, but what I really want to know is who you think a real dud might be.
- JOSH SHAPIRO:
- If Harris likes Shapiro, I think it’s her choice in spite of all of the hemming and hawing and handwringing over an American Jewish major party politician supporting Israel.
- He is a dynamic speaker. He’s got a record of good governance to run on — the Philly bridge story? Are you kidding me? And, he’s popular in his state. On the negative side, he’s only been governor for a year.
- He can work the social media or at least not fuck it up badly enough to be memeable.
- He’s young (41) and handsome, but not all that tall. He doesn’t really balance the ticket the way Mother balanced Trump. It’s more a Clinton-Gore tossing the football vibe going.
- MARK KELLY:
- I’m a little less sure of Kelly. I like him. He’s an astronaut. He’s married to Gabby Giffords. What’s not to like? Every ten year old boy is going to LOVE him and we’ll all shed tears anew over Giffords’ shooting and brain injury.
- He’s a popular centrist politician from a state where you could really use a popular centrist politician.
- But, can he make a speech? Can he fire up a crowd? Can he stand up and make himself heard in an aggressive interview or on the VP debate stage? I dunno.
- He’s lent his name and probably his organizing ability to their gun control foundation, but he’s not the dynamic face and voice of it, is he? There’s probably a reason for that. I just don’t know it, but it sounds a bit like he don’t social media well, he don’t dig the spotlight.
- He’s 60 years old and been to outer space! He’s only a year older than Harris, but looks ten years older. He would bring the steadying hand energy without seeming too much like he’s got a foot in the grave, knowhatimean?
- To me, we’re wandering into Tim Kaine and Mother Pence territory with him, though. I just don’t know how he lifts the campaign other than his bio.
- PETE BUTTIGIEG:
- We all know and love Mayor Pete the Butt. He’s as Midwest Indiana cornfed pure goodness as any prairie boy could be. He brings it in his own quiet confident detailed way, too.
- His social medias are all very popular and he can fill up your feed with fun political facts and wry observations and calm sedate memes.
- Harris knows him well after sharing a cabinet for three years. Does she like him? How much governing experience does he really have? Does he have presidential ambitions of his own in 2028?
- Does a Black woman and a gay man make a ticket that can resist the hate of all the haters that are out there?Obama drew the racists and Clinton the misogynists? They’re going to draw that plus the homophobes.
- Also, he’s 42 going on 20. He’s got that fresh faced well scrubbed cleaned behind the ears look to him. Does he even shave?
- ANDY BASHEAR:
- Who, now? He’s the governor of that state. You know the little one from the South, maybe? Or was it in the North? Anywho, it’s THAT Republican state. Isn’t Manchin from there, too? Or is it McConnell? One of those guys. See the problem? We really don’t know anything about him.
- His daddy was a well-loved Democrat in Kentucky back when Kentuckians were falling out of love with Democrats.
- He really does fall into the end of the continuum with Tim Kaine, Mother Pence, and Poppy Bush. I think he’s nothing but a mushy bucket of warm spit, which might make him a GREAT VP, but probably not a big contributor on the ticket.
- TIM WALZ:
- The more I hear Walz talk on the nattering nabobs shows, the more I like him. It helps that he is an ex-geography teacher. He connects with his interviewers, of course, they’ve been softball interviews.
- He works his social media well, too. I see him more and more in my feeds. He’s not posting memes and garbage, but sound sober fun facts about good governance in Minnesota. And, a few good ones about the MAGA Republicans.
- King of the Dad jokes on the social medias.
- He’s also only 60 years old, but looks much older. He can balance out the 59 year old’s appearance of youthful inexperience. He softens her tough DA energy with that funny, a little boring but means well, HS teacher energy.
- I think at best, he’s a Tim Kaine-Mother Pearce type with a little more charisma and charm.
What do you think? How do these guys rate? What are your biggest fears about their potential on the ticket? I’d love to discuss it with you in the comments.
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with regards to who is a better team-up with Harris, the thing to consider is which of these guys least offends the Progressive side of the Democratic factions. In this, Shapiro is in trouble because the pro-Palestinian faction oppose his open support of Israel (and his statements regarding the bloody body count in Gaza do not help). This was something Biden had to contend with before the debate debacle. Of the men getting mentioned the most, Shapiro is the one that could disrupt the good vibes lifting Harris and the Dem ticket skyward.As for Beshear being a little-known figure on the national stage, I say nay. As a Democratic governor in a massive Republican state like Kentucky, he’s shown the political skill to win re-election there. He can appeal to the white working-class voter bloc across the Rust Belt (from PA to IA). He may not flip Kentucky Blue, but he can help hold onto Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota (and he *could* help break Ohio away from Vance).
Walz has been wowing the political circles I hang with – TNC’s Horde and Balloon Juice – and he would secure progressive support. He’s also attuned to how working class whites think and act, and *could* pull off making the Democratic turnout a Big Tent blowout.
As for Kelly, he’s got the bigger national profile but he’s not as charismatic as Walz or Shapiro. He’s also a sitting Senator, and I worry pulling him from that seat might hurt Democratic chances of holding onto the Senate this election cycle.
Buttigieg is an intriguing option, has shown excellent debating skills and an ability to visit Fox Not-News often and slap the wingnut talking points down. Being the most prominent gay political figure on the national stage would bring in the strong pro-LGBT voting bloc in the Democratic base. It would definitely make the haters among the Far Right explode and over-react. But would it be too confrontational for independent/undecided voters to support?
My choices would be1) Beshear2) Walz3) Buttigieg
Just to note, I’ve never won a lotto, so my prognosticative skills are less than zero. /sigh
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Howdy Warten!
I hear you on the prognostication thing, sibling. It is a hard thing to do, especially when you keep score, which is why they don’t on the nattering nabob shows.
The whole who do you attract and who do you alienate debate is an interesting one to me because we’re running against the Felonious Rapist Traitor so it just shouldn’t matter. It should be Harris in a landslide, but for whatever reason people will get their socks twisted round the wrong way and take their votes on election day and go home. No matter what Shapiro would do as Vice President for Israel and against the Palestinians, Trump would be worse as president. It is just that simple, but it ain’t for some people.
Bashear is another from the attorneys general club, and I think he served at about the same time she did. I haven’t heard him campaign or interview. I don’t know much about him other than he’s won twice as governor and at least once as attorney general in a red state. That is impressive even if his father was one of the last popular Democratic politicians as the great shift in alignment happened. He, also, clearly gets that all politics is local and won on local bread-and-butter kitchen-table issues and by keeping the election away from national politics. The abortion thing helped a lot, too.
Bashear is pretty young, 46, so they could try to recreate that whole Clinton-Gore vibe that they had back in 1996. I think that is a good dynamic to produce in general. It is forward looking and it responds to our times.
To me, both Kelly and Bashear are unknown quantities, so I tend to stay away from choosing them, but if she likes the person and can govern with them, she should chose them and we should support them.
In the last VP stakes, I bet on Tim Scott, and see where that got me. This time, I’m pretty much betting on Shapiro. We’ll see who Harris picks. I hope to god that we don’t go down in November because of the purity principle.
Huzzah!
Jack
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Personally I like Shapiro a lot. He’s smart, well spoken and, IMO, an honorable man with a great deal of empathy, something we badly need in government.
I love Pete Buttigieg. Out of the whole bunch I think he would be the best candidate. He’s wicked smart, has a sense of humor, isn’t afraid to go after the opposition. The question though is how would he do in an election? I know a lot of Catholic democrats, for example. They held their noses and voted Biden despite him being pro-choice. But well, let’s face it, Catholics have always had a problem with sex in general. I once had a priest tell me that sex between a husband and wife was a sin unless it was solely for the purpose of reproduction. If you enjoyed it even a tiny bit it was a sin. Will someone like that vote for a married gay man? They probably wouldn’t vote for Trump, but they would simply sit out the election and not vote for either.
Anyway, for me at least, it would be Buttigieg and Shapiro in a dead heat. I’d have trouble picking between the two.
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Howdy Grouchy!
My biggest knock on Shapiro is his lack of experience. He’s only been governor for a year, was AG before that, and was on a county board of supervisors. Not the longest resume. That said, he does impress on the campaign trail. I think he’s the strongest contender.
There is a revolutionary Catholic streak that fiercely defends the needs of people and defies the Pope and traditions when it comes to sex, contraception, and abortion. Don’t count them all out. A Catholic like Biden is very appealing to them.
Buttigieg brings the homophobic flying monkey squad. Don’t underestimate how much fear and hatred can bring the bigots out from under the fridge and brave the kitchen light to vote.
Huzzah!
Jack
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I am thinking a generic white guy and Mark fits that to a tee….Walz is likeable but is that enough…Pete has too much baggage….chuq
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Howdy Chuq!
Mark Kelly is a national hero and has great name recognition. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him make a speech or give an interview. He certainly hasn’t done much as a senator to raise his profile. He’s kind of like Jon Ossoff in that way. He made a big splash in his campaign and then faded into the woodwork once he got there. Unlike Warnock, who has delivered.
I think Buttigieg would be keeping an eye on his own presidential ambitions and how whatever he’s doing now would affect them. I think it would make him a tricky governing partner. Shapiro’s ambitions probably were in the fetal development stage as far as the presidency is concerned. He’s only been governor for a year, served as AG before that, and was on a county governing board before that. He doesn’t have a lot of experience.
Neither does Pete. Mayor and Secretary of Transportation don’t amount to much. However, he’s done more with his cabinet position than Castro did, so there’s that.
Funny how none of the other 2020 also-rans are being considered for VP, hunh.
Huzzah!
Jack
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Please this is not racist…but I think she would be better off with a white guy…..Pete would catch Hell for his sexual preferences for we know that the GOP is not beyond that….Shapiro rubs me the wrong way….do not know why but irritating….it will be interesting to see who she taps on for the VP spot. Have a great night chuq
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Oh yeah. The broad consensus is that she has to choose a white guy to balance the gender and racial disparities in the ticket, so no racism there except that which we all have due to our membership in our racist culture. Notice no one is saying a CIS gender straight white guy, though, because homophobia is so foundational that it goes without saying. Occasionally, it is brought up when Buttigieg gets mentioned because gay.
There is a smugness about Shapiro that gets to me, too. But, I’ve heard him give several barn burners as campaign speeches and he is popular in Pennsylvania. Maybe he’ll rub people more the wrong way than the right way, or maybe he will resonate with folks. I don’t know.
Huzzah!
Jack
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Tuesday we should know her choice….I may have more to say then…..chuq
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I should think so. I. would be disappointed if you didn’t.
Jack
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Jack, your description of Tim Waltz has me immediately thinking of “Minnesota Nice”, and Garrison Keeler’s tales from Lake Woebegone. Could he, as VP candidate swing his state for the ticket, or could he do it better staying as Governor? Of course, that question applies to the other governors as well. Several other governors who were on the list appear to have taken themselves off it because they think they know the answer to that in their states (MI, CA, NC). He looks like a safe, but not especially exciting choice.
We love Pete, and he has been doing some good work in interviews ripping the Orange Blob and the Couch Lover to shreds without being at all ugly about it. Still, adding homophobia to misogyny and racism against the ticket would be a risk.
There is a strong argument that we need Kelly in the Senate. We have no margin of error in the chamber.
Shapiro has been very good at doing battle with a GOP gerrymandered legislature. He will work hard to deliver his state whether as Governor or VP candidate, and his state is right next door to Ohio, part of Appalachia where a lot of folks finally got around to reading that other guy’s book and are not pleased nor flattered.
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Howdy Bob!
I agree with you about Shapiro. I think it all comes down to how well they get along and can work together. They share their attorney general background and I think their time in the AG office overlapped by a year or so, but I’d have to look it up. That similar professional background can help shape a similar worldview and understanding of each other.
The thing I didn’t put in the post about Walz is that I think his background as a teacher really would help him be a better partner in governance. He has an understanding of people and families that most of us don’t get through his classroom experience.
People keep saying that Minnesota is in danger of being competitive in 2024, but they said the same things in 16 and 20, so I don’t know. It seems that it has only gotten bluer to me. He’s been a good governor and is the head of the Democratic Governors Association.
He and Kelly both tread in that Tim Kaine bland white guy unmemorable territory, but I think Walz is more likable and telegenic than Kelly is.
Huzzah!
Jack
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Well, perhaps today we will know, and if not today, tomorrow. One thing sure is that the suspense and chatter have kept the media spotlight on Harris and away from Trump. That just makes him crazier and spouting more nonsense.
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I think when Trump is reacting, he’s losing, so keep hitting him is what I say.
Looking forward to the announcement. It’s gotta be covered because it is legitimate news, right?
Jack
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With the level of coverage Harris and the VP pick are getting and will get, leaving Trump in the category of, “Oh, yes, I did hear thee is some other guy running,” is a good thing, and maddening for him.
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I really like Tim Walz…the problem is that no one knows who he is….heard him speak once and I can’t remember where he was…or actually what he said…but my impression was that I really liked him. I have absolutely no idea WHY though.
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Howdy Suze!
The hallmark of a truly good speaker, and really all that is needed to win elections since we vote for people that we like. I’m sure most of his high school geography students had the same response to him.
He seems a genuine sweet fellow and given his experience dealing with unruly students — never get into a power struggle, keep a firm but respectful boundary, reinforce the rules — he probably would mop the debate stage floor with Vance and he’d never know what was happening to him.
I genuinely like Walz. I think he could be the surprise at the bottom of the Cracker Jack box.
Huzzah!
Jack
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