Tim Walz and Jamoke Dumbass Vance will debate in about 24 hours from this writing (9:40 PM Monday 30 September ET). I’ve heard some of the anticipation of the debate on the pundit shows with the wringing of hands and endless disclaimers so they can cover their asses with their predictions.
In the midst of all this, I’m reminded of the coverage of the suit that the Sandy Hook families brought against Alex Jones when Scarlett Lewis looked him in the eye while under oath and said, she, her family, and their pain were real, but more importantly, “…I know you know that, and that’s the problem.“
It is the statement that every Trump supporter has to answer for. The outrageous lies about immigrant crime and behavior need to be challenged directly. Not just the truth of the matter, but that the actual lying and the deliberate knowing lying needs to be confronted.
My fantasy is that the wholesome Mid-Western niceness of Tim Walz saying, “Why do y’all lie so darn much? Why do you repeat lies that you know are lies?” He’s one of the few politicians who are uniquely suited to being able to use this line because he is just so down home white.
I know Vance is going to be prepared with answers for everything, including, the self-righteous, “It is my constituents who are calling with stories of pets being eaten by Haitian immigrants.” He’s said it before. But, the answer is that even though people may have called with these claims, we know it isn’t happening, so you should be correcting them a la John McCain correcting his voter who accused Obama of being a Muslim.
I think Walz will handle him well with his “Mind your own damn business” energy and bedrock view of the world. Vance will be disciplined and prepared, but the stank of the pile shit that Jamoke Dumbass is and the sewage that flows so liberally from the Old Felonious Authoritarian Rapist Traitor will still waft over the lipstick they smeared on that pig.
I’d love to hear your thoughts, hopes, and fears about the debate and the election in the comments.
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In one of the biggest twists of irony in history, the concept of the Big Lie has been attributed to a quote that Goebbels, Hitler’s Propaganda Minister, did not make, so that attribution is in itself a Big Lie. It has been repeated so often that it is believed giving solid evidence to how the Big Lie works: repeat a lie often enough, it takes on the illusion of truthiness (sorry Colbert).
I know that Goebbels didn’t actually say it, but it is what’s out there and it is an effective representation of why Republicans knowingly lie for political gain. Enjoy the irony rather than @’ing me.




I Think JD Vance Is a Bigot
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Howdy Harper!
Walks like a duck. Talks like a duck. Hangs out with ducks. All the other ducks think they’re a duck.
But, I prefer my commenters make a more substantial comment than just an accusation. What do you got?
Huzzah!
Jack
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Well, I’m coming to this one a bit late to make any prediction about the debate, which I also missed and haven’t yet been able to get to the reporting on the juicy bits.
Effectively confronting a determined and clever liar is difficult. Even if you can get him to admit one lie, he will only tell another one, and call you the liar into the bargain.
As has come up before, the goal of these people is the destruction of the idea of truth and facts, and the resulting impossibility of the populace to think at all.
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Howdy Bob!
I was a bit disappointed in Walz for not giving it the “Aw, shucks, mind you’re own damn business,” schtick, but other than that. Walz did well for his first time on the big stage.
Jack
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The moderators would freak, but Walz should roll out a couch onto the stage in front of the podiums, sit down and pat the seat next to him and say “JD, come sit down and we’ll have a friendly discussion with the American people on what’s actually important to them. Make yourself comfortable”
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Howdy Bruce!
In some ways, that’s exactly what happened. Only, JD wasn’t comfortable. It was like watching oil on water. I think the deciding factor was, who would you buy a used car from?
Huzzah!
Jack
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What did you think of the debate, though?
Jack
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Honestly I only watched a bit
JD was notanswering a question about global warming, going on and on about how he and Trump want clean air and water, then going off on ‘the strange science claims about carbon’, I got the urge to throw a brick at my TV screen, and so decided to switch to watching something more soothing, like an Englich police procedural about murder.
I knew it was going to be a JD gish gallop the entire time goin in.
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Howdy Bruce!
He really did come off like a used car salesman. Just nothing but snake oil and guyliner.
Jack
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Trump and Vance are, just about, out of, tricks, as they, use the, emotional blackmail, the, spreading of fear, to, get those, uneducated voters to, vote for them, and, despite how the Republican candidates have, no physically proposed plans on the major issues of the economy, the, Hamas-Israeli conflict, etc., etc., etc., they will, continue, to, spread the lies throughout the land, because, the party is, banking on how people will be, easily swayed toward the emotional and not the, factual. A group of BLIND people are, way EASIER to lead, than those who are, seeing, and can TELL where they’re, headed
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Howdy Taurus!
They are both one trick ponies. All they can do is lie. They know that the thing that really drives society is belief above all else. If people believe something, the truth matters less. But, with things like climate change and economic inequality and war, the truth eventually bites the liar in the ass.
People are easier to lie to when they want to believe the lies you’re telling. Too many people in America want to believe the easy solution of scapegoating and that racism and misogyny are okay. We’ll see who turns out more voters and whose votes get counted.
What did you think of the debate?
Huzzah!
Jack
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