SUMMARY: Trump’s body count is starting to add up. A couple million in #COVID19 deaths, a few hundred in political violence, and now the poor souls blown from the water in pursuit of whatever narcissistic wet dream he seems to be having. Is it too soon to start talking about Trump in the same way we talk about all governments that have killed millions of their citizens? Has Trump killed more people than any other American government official outside of war?
KEY TERMS: Trump, Murder, #COVID19, Excess Deaths, Extra-Judicial Killings, Immigration Detention Centers, Medicaid Cuts, USAID, SNAP, Political Violence
COMMENTS: What is Trump’s body count? How does he compare to other American government officials? Where does he rank among other murderous governments?
- Killed At Sea
- The #COVID19 Pandemic
- Immigration Detention Centers
- Political Violence
- Future Deaths
- Image Attriution
As the number of people murdered by the Orange Caricature because they are on board a boat at sea near a coast mounts, I began to wonder just how many people has Orange Julius Caesar murdered during his time in office and how does it compare to other governments?
I’m asking for your help here in constructing a body count for the TACO Stain. Here’s what I know or think I know:
Killed At Sea
According to PBS, as of Thursday 23 October, Trump had murdered 37 people on board boats in either the Caribbean Sea or in the Pacific. Since then, there is reporting that six more people were killed.
Well, I don’t think we’re going to necessarily ask for a declaration of war. “I think we’re just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country. OK? We’re going to kill them.
Trump speaking to reporters “Kill Them:” Trump Says No Congress Nod Needed to Attack Narco-Terrorists
Trump seems willing to go on a merry killing spree, believing that he can kill anyone in the world because he is afraid of them. Fear is the all purpose white supremacist excuse used to have vaguely Arab looking passengers on airlines removed because they made white people nervous. And Black people existing make Karens of both genders nervous across our country. And of course, that boy and his skateboard made Kyle Rittenhouse scared enough to justify murdering him with his assault rifle, and Trayvon Martin made George Zimmerman nervous after Zimmerman attacked him, which justified his murderous actions.
Trump’s body count of foreigners doesn’t seem like its going to slow down anytime soon, either, because he’s said he’s going to attack land targets with the aircraft from the USS Gerald Ford. Trump’s fear of Brown people coupled with his fear of the Epstein files and his fear of Putin’s kompromat is sufficient for him to pull the largest aircraft carrier in the history of the world from striking distance on an active theater of war where our NATO allies are being threatened and sent to where it can kill hundreds of innocent people. Well, there you go.
The #COVID19 Pandemic
Trump made a shambolic mess of a bad situation with the #COVID19 pandemic. A research letter published in JAMA this year estimates that the excess US deaths in 2020 and 2021 were over a million each, totalling 2,107,177. Trump did in two years what took the Khmer Rouge four to do.
To put that two million in perspective, excess deaths in 2019 were just over 600,000, in 2022, just over 800,000, and in 2023, 700,000.
Immigration Detention Centers
The number of deaths in immigration detention centers is difficult to determine because ICE, like all other Trump affiliates, lies. NPR reports that the total number of detainees to die in ICE facilities under Trump’s watch is 61. If you take the American Immigration Council’s count of twenty-three deaths in 2025, then the number is 64.
The twenty-three that died in 2025 are seven more than the sixteen that died in 2020 when #COVID19 stalked the camps. In 2021, when Biden was in charge, only five people died in the detention centers despite #COVID19.
Political Violence
Trump has been promoting political violence since his fateful ride down the golden escalator before his bevy of paid actors in 2016. Since then, many Republicans have taken up the call to arms. However, it is difficult to get an accurate count of the number of people murdered in political violence because definitions of political violence and assigning motivations and political affiliation can be difficult.
The best count finale on a Google search is 112 dead in rightwing political attacks since 2016. Compare that to thirteen assigned to leftwing perpetrators. In your eye all who are heralding the rise in leftist violence.
Future Deaths
With skyrocketing ACA insurance premiums, a cut in funding for Medicaid, cancelling cancer and other medical research grants, destroying USAID, and other cuts to government funding, many many people are going to die. When we quit giving out fans in the summer in Texas in the 1980s when Republicans cut social service funding, the number of older adults who died from heat-related causes rose dramatically. People don’t realize how much these government programs do.
As rural hospitals close, medications go unpaid for, and symptoms ignored until it is too late, the number of deaths that Trump’s callous disregard for human life and welfare are going to increase. Add to this the disruption in SNAP, WIC, and other food aid due to the government shutdown, and suddenly you’ve got hundreds more unnecessary deaths. Is it too soon to talk about Trump along with some of the more deadly governments in human history? Is it possible that he’s killed more people than any other president outside of war?
He’s got a long way to go before he can join the ranks of Hitler, Mao, and Stalin, but he’s already surpassed such well knowns as North Korea, Tito, and Turkey’s Kurdish Genocide. And, he’s on par with the Khmer Rouge and World War II Japan. Let’s face it with his narcissistic desire to be best, there’s no where to go but up from here!
Image Attriution
This image was found on the WikiMedia Commons page, File:Skulls of the victims of the Khmer Rouge occupation of Cambodia.jpg








I would add in estimated deaths due to cancelling the congressionally approved USAID aid.
Searching headlines on this issue, I’m seeing claims that 330,000 have died from loss of this aid (https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/media/som/news/news-logos/BU-researcher-warns-of-367,000-deaths-from-halted-USAID-programs_.pdf
and that 14 million could die by 2030 that would have lived (assuming, I’m sure, that the aid is not replaced by aid from other sources or by reinstatement.
If he keeps on, you won’t have to exclude deaths due to various wars from other presidents’ loss-of-life records to have him leading the pack.
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To put those 2,107,177 unnecessary COVID deaths in perspective, Phoenix, Arizona is the fifth largest city in the US; the 2024 estimate is 1,673,164. Imagine all those deaths occurring in one place. Imagine arriving in Phoenix in late 2023 after a three year absence to find the entire city and many of its suburbs totally depopulated. From fifth largest city to a ghost town in just three years. This is what Trump has done.
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Howdy EA!
I have to say that 1.6 million of two million deaths seems like too many. Where are you getting that number from?
Huzzah!
Jack
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I simply looked up the current population of Phoenix and its rank among US cities. It’s all online. I didn’t say that 1.6 million people in Phoenix had died; I was merely speculating on how it would look if all the COVID deaths happened in one place.
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Sorry, sibling, I didn’t pick up on that on first read. But you’re right it is more than the population of Phoenix, and it makes it a shocking number.
Jack
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I think you’ve done a fine job, Jack. I haven’t tried to keep a count; I know it’s been happening. That’s the best I can do.
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Thank you Ali. When I realized that Trump had killed as many Americans in two years as the Khmer Rouge Cambodians in fours, I realized that these were numbers that needed to be popularized. An idea that needed to be promoted. Then, it hit me that Trump could well have killed more Americans, outside of war, than any other government official. These numbers and ideas are concepts that most people can understand, especially Trump’s ranking between the Khmer Rouge and WWII Japan.
Huzzah!
Jack
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Good post Jack. The death toll is increasing and the longer the shutdown plays out the more will be added. chuq
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The idea that Trump’s death toll is on par with the Khmer Rouge is a sobering and startling fact. It should get people’s attention and cause outrage. We’ll see.
Jack
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That is amazing but sadly too many Americans have no idea who the Khmer Rouge were or where they committed their crimes. chuq
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Howdy Chuq!
How could you expect anything more from a people who think Africa is a country, aren’t sure which came first, WW I or WWII, or can’t distinguish Australia from Austria? Ignorance is paying off for the Republicans handsomely.
Jack
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It is and they have been working on this scheme for 50 years. chuq
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The Republicans have played the long game, which suggests that Trump was just good fortune. It also suggests that this authoritarian push was coming in one form or another no matter what
Jack
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Jack the GOP is a master at the long game….Dems know but have no answer to the plan….since 1960 this has been in the works…..chuq
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Howdy Chuq!
The Dems are very disappointing on so many levels. Eric Holder and Barack Obama were supposed to be addressing the gerrymandering issue after they left office, but I’ve heard very little from either on it. And, I don’t see a lot of tangible results, either.
The GOP has also exploited dog whistle politics and divisive social issues rather than actually doing any governing, and Dems have had no answer for that, either. It’s very disappointing to watch Americans willingly hand our democracy to authoritarians because they can’t resist dog whistles.
Huzzah!
Jack
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Jack, I have always said that Dems have some great ideas they just suck at playing the political game. chuq
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Howdy Chuq!
For the most part, Dems are too honest and follow the rules and norms too closely. The Republicans have always — since Teapot Dome — have colored outside the lines. I’ll post about this later this week.
Huzzah!
Jack
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I will watch for it. Thanx for the heads up chuq
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Just the beginning, friends, just the beginning.
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Howdy John!
My hope is that if I can shine a light on the number of deaths Trump has caused and then place him in the rankings of murderous regimes, it will catch people’s attention. It will cause more outrage and dissatisfaction.
Huzzah!
Jack
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Outrage and dissatisfaction? That is about as useless as standing in a crowd of protesters waving signs and hooting slogans at the un-hearing sky–
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Howdy John!
Protest does matter. It does make a difference. As do contacting government officials, especially Congress folks, writing letters to the editor, posting on social media, and standing on a lonely street corner with a sign. Everyone can do something to resist the fascification of our government. I’ve posted about all of this before, so I refer you to those posts that also have the evidence that supports the claims.
Huzzah!
Jack
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“… because a despot can kill.” — In the dream sequence, Don Juan In Hell, the Devil speaks – [wonderfully played by Charles Laughton in the recordin I’ve owned for 70 years]
“Man measures his strength by his destructiveness. What is his religion? An excuse for hating ME. What is his law? An excuse for hanging YOU. What is his morality? Gentility! an excuse for consuming without producing. What is his art? An excuse for gloating over pictures of slaughter. What are his politics? Either the worship of a despot because a despot can kill, or parliamentary cockfighting. I spent an evening lately in a certain celebrated legislature, and heard the pot lecturing the kettle for its blackness, and ministers answering questions. When I left I chalked up on the door the old nursery saying—”Ask no questions and you will be told no lies.”
― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman
Here, we have both the despot and the cock fighting.
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Howdy Bob!
“Because a despot can kill,” is a catchy line. It is the perfect summation of the problem of the situation. Trump is completely unfettered. Without someone holding a firm boundary, he will continue to defy the law and behave in more and more outrageous ways. It is going to take a real confrontation between Trump and the masses because elections won’t stop him. He’s gearing up to defy the outcome of elections.
Huzzah!
Jack
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Meanwhile, his poll numbers just keep getting worse every week. He has thrown out any semblance of Congress having the purse strings. He refuses to spend appropriated funds, spends on things never appropriated, and moves appropriated funds around however he pleases. If 2/3 of the House and Senate were true to their oath, he would be impeached and removed for that alone. He really has come to believe, not that he is above the Law, but that he IS the Law.
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Howdy Bob!
I know it is a pipedream, but I’d love to see the Republican Congress impeach and remove Trump. He’s flushing them along with everyone else in the country down the toilet.
Trump no longer follows the law in any way shape form or fashion. Court orders are meaningless. I’m waiting for a confrontation between local and state police and ICE or CPB agents. That probably will be what triggers the Insurrection Act.
Huzzah!
Jack
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Trump just stepped on the stratagem of blaming the Dems for the shutdown by saying the Senate GOP should just get rid of the filibuster and ending the shutdown. None of the leadership want to do that because they fear what would happen if they ever lose their tiny majority. He really doesn’t coordinate with anybody but the group immediately around him, and not always them.
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Howdy Bob!
Trump doesn’t have the executive capacity to coordinate with anyone. And, with something as complicated as the byzantine Senate, he can’t comprehend the ramifications of what he is saying. Also, he doesn’t believe that we will ever have another election or at least another competitive election. Like Bannon said, he will be president in 2028. What he didn’t say is that he would be nominated, run, and elected. He just ain’t leaving and the Senate ceases to matter.
Huzzah!
Jack
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He’s already so far gone that any normal family would be talking about guardianship.
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And any licensed social worker would be in violation if they didn’t contact Adult Protective Services. That’s the worst thing about all of this is the abuse of challenged and diminishing human being.
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I wonder whether the Trump children have had talks with lawyers about guardianship. Donald did it with his dad about dementia. If any have, I would bet on Ivanka. The boys are too scared of him, but concerns about their inheritance might overcome that. Melania has he prenup, but she might worry about him blowing up the capital base. JD Vance may well be watching for an Amendment 25 opportunity, and Stephen Miller and other could begin to worry that he could blow the game, even that he might already be close to that. What happens when he can no longer function as a sock puppet for the real deciders? Perhaps, a tragic illness?
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