I really try to stay away from the big news stories unless their is a clear psychological angle that I can develop. Nowadays with social media, everybody has a hot take, which usually serves to just waste time and distract from the real issue — my apologies to everyone on my social media feeds who post their insightful opinions on the news of the day. Anywho, I figure I can’t really add much to that.
You know the ubiquitous inevitable but is coming, and here it is. But, the Charlie Kirk story is different. Much has been made of how much he promoted debate and listening to the other side because he would go onto college campuses and let people ask him questions cosplaying that “Change My Mind” Meme.
Apparently, that has many people thinking that he had some desire to achieve some semblance of a fair and honest exchange of ideas and points of view. This crowd includes the illustrious Jill Wine-Banks of #SistersInLaw and Watergate fame and our very own Heather Longtreader of our comments section. However, his very last exchange betrays the error of this belief.
QUESTIONER: “Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?”
KIRK: “Too many.”
Come on, he either knows and he doesn’t want to say because it is ridiculously small or he doesn’t know because he just wants to using the lie to keep MAGA riled up about transgender people. Either way, he’s being dishonest.
The answer of too many sounds like “even one is two many and we need to do everything we can to rid ourself of this scourge” reasonable response. It rarely is reasonable in matters of public policy, but that is a post of a different sort. It is an illusory explanation. It doesn’t really explain anything, but it sounds reasonable enough to get the audience to quit thinking about it. Who could disagree with “too many” mass shootings?
QUESTIONER: The CNN transcript doesn’t quote the speaker, but notes that they reported the number as five. They then asked if Kirk knew the total number of mass shooters over the last 10 years.
KIRK: “Counting or not counting gang violence?”

If that isn’t a cynical answer, I don’t know what one is. That is as dishonest of a response as you could get. First off, it is a blatant racist dog whistle: Black people are in gangs, and gangs commit mass shootings all the time, so we can’t confound the mass shooting committed by otherwise good white people (straight men) and those with the nearly criminally insane Black gang members, can we? I’m just being reasonable here, Kirk says.
Second, he’s hoping to bait the questioner into an argument over counting gang violence or not. It is a favorite trick of trolls all over social media. He’s hiding behind the illusion of reasonableness by making such a statement. Luckily, his questioner is ready.
To their credit, CNN included a note indicating that the answer is 5700 mass shootings since 2013, according to the Gun Violence Archive. Let’s see if we can calculate the percentage of mass shootings committed by transgender people since 2013… Hold on… There were five transgender shooters… And 5700 shootings… Hold on while I take off my shoe… Okay, take away a one, making that a nine… Um… Er… Let’s ask AI and hope they get the maths right… That’s 0.09%, so less than one percent. No wonder Kirk and other conservatives spouting the talking point that transgender people are driven to commit mass shootings don’t want to actually talk about the numbers and just rely on illusory explanation.
It’s all an illusion or is that delusion or just outright cynical manipulative lie?
That brief exchange lays bare any claims that anyone can make that Kirk was anything other than a provocateur who is a dishonest interlocutor. How anyone could put their trust in him is beyond me, but people do.
Charlie Kirk and people like, which is just about everyone on the right today, especially in the media, is what is wrong with our political discourse. Unfortunately, instead of correcting it, the MSM is taking the corporate bottom line approach and going along with it because shareholders expect profits.
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It is reported that others on the extreme Right hated Charley for his willingness to engage with “Libs”, particularly the “GROYPERS” led by Nick Fuentes. Fuentes is a very savvy guy who knows the ways of propaganda well. I find it difficult to believe that he didn’t see what Kirk was really doing, which, aside from the “debating” was building a huge personal base, even a cult of personality. All those guys (Sorry, Marjorie, it’s a guy game.) know that some day, somehow, DJT is going to leave the stage without a real planned succession (His kind never do. They can’t trust an anointed heir.). Kirk was preparing for that day, and in the meantime, becoming a major power in the Trump regime. I think a lot of the leadership level people who are so loudly morning and accusing are also relieved by a competitor being removed.
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Howdy Bob!
I think folks like Nick Fuentes are true believers for whom purity is what matters. Kirk was an opportunist willing to take the issue du jour as far as it would take him and willing to change horses if it looked like a better ride. There is ample speculation that the young charismatic Kirk was seen as an hier to Trump since none of the other would be hiers have anything approaching charisma — JD Vance? MTG? De Santis? Abbott? None of those folks could take over the lead of MAGA, but Kirk could. He had that gift… And the grift.
Vance et al. are relieved he’s gone because he was — as you say — too much of a threat to their ambitions and was taking up too much of the money. Donations to TPUSA were equivalent to those to the Republican Party. He was a little too successful for comfort.
Huzzah!
Jack
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Charlie says and does what the lunatics wants to hear….there is no substance just lies and misinformation….the discourse is screwed. chuq
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There is no discourse when the audience you’re playing to isn’t even in the room but on the other end of the screen. Everything else is just a prop in the circus act.
Jack
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Yep and it is a circus of the macabre…..chuq
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and now the state of Oklahoma’s loving maga state senators wish to make the anniversary of Mr Kirk’s death a state holiday. Can we not see clearly yet? some of us do, and are appalled…but we dare say nothing out loud. keep blogging brother.
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Shut up, Suze! That can’t be true?!? Really? They want a Saint Charlie day in which we all have to stay at home and send a card to the government ratting out someone’s anti-government behavior or belief and pray that the Orange Caricature comes down the chimney of a neighbors house to take them away to the gulag for re-education?
What are we becoming?
Jack
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I don’t know what we are becoming, but I see so many parallels to 1938 Germany it scares me silly. And, btw, that bill passed and we now have Charlie Kirk Day…a state holiday. Shows what being number 50 in education gets one…and we have to teach the Bible as HISTORY too. what a freaking farce we’ve become.
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Howdy Suze!
We are a farce, and the world will quickly pass us by. We are crippling ourselves just so we can indulge in our hate and aide and abet corruption at the highest levels. Building is hard, destruction, easy. We’re just digging the hole deeper.
Jack
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